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#11
For me to believe in "miracles" there would need to be at least the merest shred of scientific proof.

Like for example the bloke who was crushed by the truck, a before scan of his intestines and an after would be a good start, after all he says they magically doubled in size.

For me to believe Id need to see the many suffering people in this world shown some relief from their "god"

It just doesn't happen, no matter which "god" they pray to.

Sad but true, the human  brain is hard wired to believe in a higher being or "god", it used to be the Sun, but that was perverted and distorted into several other "gods" to fill the pockets of the greedy and the lazy.

Sadly, for me at least, I see religion in general to cause more pain and death than the lack of it.

Sad10  Grandpa Wood_chop
"If a clutered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign."  Albert Einstein

Well, I have the cluttered desk, I guess that's a start!
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#12
I researched this dude "John of G-d" a few years ago.

Seems what he is doing is real, but the force he's channeling ("dead doctors") is anything but Christian based.

I spent time trying to find people that had bad experiences with him. Most is in Spanish. DaVo can read Spanish.

There was one site I found and it only had a dozen or so complaints.

Considering the numbers of people that travel the world to have this dude do his thing on them, a dozen complaints takes a back seat.

John of God documentary - Part 1

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John of God documentary -- Part 2
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#13
I say BS.  IF & when it "works" it's because of the psychosomatic effect.  If these people go back home and slip back into their old ways (of stressing out, bad diet, little exercise, poor sleep etc.) they will once again have problems with their health.
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#14
(02-09-2013, 05:09 PM)Papa-J link Wrote: I say BS.

About that "John" dude?

The last girl in the second video figured out that it's not the G-d of Abraham this "John" is a medium off.

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#15
That "John of god" fellow is no different to those other "faith" healers like the ones who perform "operations" on sick patients with nothing but their hands... oh and some chicken guts to pull out of the patient (hidden in their hands beforehand) and magically cure the poor old patient.

There's a lot to be said about the effectiveness of the placebo effect. If it works for them, well good luck to 'em.

Grandpa Animalien Wood_chop
"If a clutered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign."  Albert Einstein

Well, I have the cluttered desk, I guess that's a start!
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#16
(02-09-2013, 06:37 PM)Thunderbird link Wrote: and some chicken guts

Those that do that wipe off the mess and no scare remains at that moment.

This John dude really does make incisions, then adds stitches.

He really is scraping eye balls.

Plenty of western medial skeptics (one backed by oprah winfrey if that means anything..LOL) have been and seen it for themselves.

He's really shoving that 8" instrument with cotton wool on the end, up peoples noses into their head cavity and twisting it.

On the numbers, I've found more people support it, than are against it.

Me, I don't agree with it, as he's channeling the dead which is a big no no via my Christian upbringing.  Jesus


Benny Hinn VS John of "god"  Debilos-1

Score board....

- Benny Hinn... fark all...

- John of blah blah....farking heaps...


Oi Chopper, I'll chip in some airfare and we go get him to give you a make-over  Grandpa

What would impress me is someone with a medical certificate proving they are legally blind, and then later having anyone of these yobo's get them seeing again.

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